Sometimes financial advice comes with a side of brutal honesty. That's exactly what happened when Heather, a 28-year-old caller, dialed into "The Ramsey Show" hoping for sympathy about her family's crushing debt load. Instead, she got a reality check from personal finance expert Dave Ramsey.
When Blaming the Economy Backfires
Heather and her husband are staring down more than $1.3 million in debt, a messy combination of business loans, credit card balances, back taxes and a mortgage. When she suggested their struggles were tied to broader economic headwinds affecting their businesses—a summer camp and a rental operation offering staging, inflatables and audiovisual equipment—Ramsey wasn't buying it.
"We kind of are stuck with the businesses that everybody's trying to avoid," Heather explained.
Ramsey's response was characteristically direct. "Not really true," he shot back. "The economy is quite booming in some areas. But just the economics at your house suck." He continued: "The situation you all are in, being so overwhelmed, I can see how you could start to think that. When life looks like a country song, it just looks like a country song. Lots of people are still renting kids' stuff all over the place."
How $1.3 Million in Debt Happens
The financial trouble started four years ago when Heather's husband lost his job. After struggling to find stable work, they pivoted to entrepreneurship. In 2022, they launched a summer camp business that's now bringing in around $200,000 annually. Feeling confident, they decided to expand by purchasing another business's assets for $1.2 million, financed through a Small Business Administration loan.
That's where things went sideways. "The more we peeled back, the more we found the deception," Heather said. They eventually realized they'd overpaid by about $400,000.
Ramsey had strong words for the SBA's role in approving the loan. "Anybody that made this loan should be just lined up and shot," he said. "They've screwed you in the process."
The Math Doesn't Add Up
The couple's combined business expenses now run about $50,000 per month. When Ramsey asked if they're actually covering those costs, Heather admitted it's hit or miss. "Some months we are," she said. "But both of our businesses are very seasonal."
That answer didn't inspire confidence. Ramsey told them to brace for the possibility of losing everything and starting fresh. "You hold on to each other, and you hold on to Jesus, and you hold on to your marriage," he said. "So what? Lots of people have gone broke."
The Exit Strategy
Ramsey's advice was straightforward: sell the second business for whatever they can get. If they manage to get $800,000, he suggested they push hard for a short sale with the SBA. His suggested pitch? "You get nothing, honey, if you don't take this $800 [thousand], cause I'm walking and you're going to own a blow-up inflatable. The SBA is not in the inflatable business."
He also stressed the importance of prioritizing the IRS over every other creditor, reminding them that tax debt survives bankruptcy. "Before you pay anybody else, you pay the KGB—I mean the IRS," Ramsey said.
It's a sobering example of how quickly entrepreneurial dreams can turn into financial nightmares, especially when due diligence takes a backseat to optimism. For Heather and her husband, the road ahead involves some uncomfortable conversations with creditors and possibly walking away from a business they bought at an inflated price. But as Ramsey pointed out, their problem isn't the economy. It's the decisions they made within it.