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Dave Ramsey Tells Wisconsin Couple They're Too Broke for Their 10-Year-Old's Dance Competitions

MarketDash Editorial Team
11 hours ago
A Wisconsin couple earning $150,000 wanted to tap their emergency fund for their daughter's dance travel expenses. Dave Ramsey and Rachel Cruze delivered a brutal reality check about priorities, debt, and what broke people can't afford.

When Emergency Funds Meet Dance Competitions

Here's a question that probably sounded reasonable in someone's head before it got to "The Ramsey Show": How should we pay for our 10-year-old's dance competition travel expenses? The answer they got back was considerably less gentle than expected.

Tucker from Wisconsin called in with his wife, explaining their situation. Together they make $150,000 a year, which sounds pretty comfortable. They thought they'd reached Baby Step Three in the Ramsey system, which is supposed to mean you've got your emergency fund fully loaded. Their daughter does competitive dance, and the upcoming competition season means travel costs. His wife wanted to pull from the emergency fund to cover it. Tucker thought maybe they should cash-flow it while making minimum payments on whatever debt they still had.

Personal finance experts Dave Ramsey and Rachel Cruze were not impressed with either option.

The Reality Check Begins

"Well, Tucker, you're not in Baby Step Three if you're still paying minimum payments on your debt," Cruze said. The whole point of Baby Step Three is that you've already killed your debt. If you're still making payments, you're nowhere near that milestone.

Ramsey jumped in with more specifics: "You're not on a Baby Step Three while you still have a credit card. You need to cut it up right now."

Then they tackled the emergency fund question. Cruze pointed out something pretty obvious: competitive sports aren't emergencies. "You guys know that if you're doing a competitive sport, when the season starts and when things are due. You know when that's coming," she explained. "You may not know the exact price tag, but you should know the range."

Translation: This is a budget item, not an emergency. Emergency funds are for your transmission dying or losing your job, not for predictable seasonal expenses you signed up for voluntarily.

Ramsey Pulls No Punches

This is where Ramsey delivered his trademark bluntness. "Broke people don't travel with 10-year-old dance competitions. And you're broke people," he said. "It's sad. It's heartbreaking."

He continued with even more force: "You're prioritizing a 10-year-old dance competition over your family's financial health. That's so screwed up it's not even addressable."

Harsh? Sure. But Ramsey's point was about priorities. When you still have debt and you're debating whether to raid your emergency fund or make minimum payments to afford something optional, you've got a priority problem.

The Scholarship Fantasy

Cruze mentioned that many families feel intense pressure to start kids in competitive sports early, worried they won't make middle or high school teams otherwise. Ramsey wasn't buying into that fear.

"You don't need to go on vacation and you don't need to be spending huge amounts of money on children's sports or dance competitions when you're in debt and you're broke," he said. "That's just not smart."

Then Ramsey addressed the unspoken hope driving a lot of these decisions: that somehow the investment will pay off in scholarships or professional opportunities. "The number of girls that go to college on a dance scholarship is precisely close to almost zero," he said. "What she'll have is a little trophy and a memory of a Three Dog Night song when she's 30."

He shared his own experience making similar choices when he actually had the money to spare. "We had the money. Daniel's playing ice hockey and we figured out pretty quick he's not going to be in the NHL," Ramsey said. "I'm not paying 25,000 bucks so you can have a vacation with your 10-year-old buddies."

The Bottom Line

The advice to Tucker was straightforward: stop pretending you're in better financial shape than you actually are. "You're not really doing this stuff yet," Ramsey said. "You're going to have to get serious about it like your freaking life depends on it."

The conversation highlights a broader issue about how families think about money and kids' activities. Making $150,000 feels like you should be able to afford these things. But income doesn't matter if you're still in debt and treating your emergency fund like a slush fund for discretionary spending. The question isn't whether you can technically afford something. It's whether you should be spending money on it given your actual financial situation.

For Tucker and his wife, that answer was a pretty definitive no.

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Dave Ramsey Tells Wisconsin Couple They're Too Broke for Their 10-Year-Old's Dance Competitions

MarketDash Editorial Team
11 hours ago
A Wisconsin couple earning $150,000 wanted to tap their emergency fund for their daughter's dance travel expenses. Dave Ramsey and Rachel Cruze delivered a brutal reality check about priorities, debt, and what broke people can't afford.

When Emergency Funds Meet Dance Competitions

Here's a question that probably sounded reasonable in someone's head before it got to "The Ramsey Show": How should we pay for our 10-year-old's dance competition travel expenses? The answer they got back was considerably less gentle than expected.

Tucker from Wisconsin called in with his wife, explaining their situation. Together they make $150,000 a year, which sounds pretty comfortable. They thought they'd reached Baby Step Three in the Ramsey system, which is supposed to mean you've got your emergency fund fully loaded. Their daughter does competitive dance, and the upcoming competition season means travel costs. His wife wanted to pull from the emergency fund to cover it. Tucker thought maybe they should cash-flow it while making minimum payments on whatever debt they still had.

Personal finance experts Dave Ramsey and Rachel Cruze were not impressed with either option.

The Reality Check Begins

"Well, Tucker, you're not in Baby Step Three if you're still paying minimum payments on your debt," Cruze said. The whole point of Baby Step Three is that you've already killed your debt. If you're still making payments, you're nowhere near that milestone.

Ramsey jumped in with more specifics: "You're not on a Baby Step Three while you still have a credit card. You need to cut it up right now."

Then they tackled the emergency fund question. Cruze pointed out something pretty obvious: competitive sports aren't emergencies. "You guys know that if you're doing a competitive sport, when the season starts and when things are due. You know when that's coming," she explained. "You may not know the exact price tag, but you should know the range."

Translation: This is a budget item, not an emergency. Emergency funds are for your transmission dying or losing your job, not for predictable seasonal expenses you signed up for voluntarily.

Ramsey Pulls No Punches

This is where Ramsey delivered his trademark bluntness. "Broke people don't travel with 10-year-old dance competitions. And you're broke people," he said. "It's sad. It's heartbreaking."

He continued with even more force: "You're prioritizing a 10-year-old dance competition over your family's financial health. That's so screwed up it's not even addressable."

Harsh? Sure. But Ramsey's point was about priorities. When you still have debt and you're debating whether to raid your emergency fund or make minimum payments to afford something optional, you've got a priority problem.

The Scholarship Fantasy

Cruze mentioned that many families feel intense pressure to start kids in competitive sports early, worried they won't make middle or high school teams otherwise. Ramsey wasn't buying into that fear.

"You don't need to go on vacation and you don't need to be spending huge amounts of money on children's sports or dance competitions when you're in debt and you're broke," he said. "That's just not smart."

Then Ramsey addressed the unspoken hope driving a lot of these decisions: that somehow the investment will pay off in scholarships or professional opportunities. "The number of girls that go to college on a dance scholarship is precisely close to almost zero," he said. "What she'll have is a little trophy and a memory of a Three Dog Night song when she's 30."

He shared his own experience making similar choices when he actually had the money to spare. "We had the money. Daniel's playing ice hockey and we figured out pretty quick he's not going to be in the NHL," Ramsey said. "I'm not paying 25,000 bucks so you can have a vacation with your 10-year-old buddies."

The Bottom Line

The advice to Tucker was straightforward: stop pretending you're in better financial shape than you actually are. "You're not really doing this stuff yet," Ramsey said. "You're going to have to get serious about it like your freaking life depends on it."

The conversation highlights a broader issue about how families think about money and kids' activities. Making $150,000 feels like you should be able to afford these things. But income doesn't matter if you're still in debt and treating your emergency fund like a slush fund for discretionary spending. The question isn't whether you can technically afford something. It's whether you should be spending money on it given your actual financial situation.

For Tucker and his wife, that answer was a pretty definitive no.