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Dave Ramsey Shuts Down Business Owner's Expansion Plans: 'Why Would You Want More Of This?'

MarketDash Editorial Team
12 hours ago
Personal finance guru Dave Ramsey delivered blunt advice to a Dallas pediatric therapy practice owner making $1 million in revenue but no profit. His message: fix your business model before you even think about expansion.

Here's a problem you probably don't want to have: your business is bringing in a million dollars a year, and you still can't afford to grow. That's exactly where Sarah, a Dallas-based pediatric therapy practice owner, found herself when she called into Dave Ramsey's "EntreLeadership" podcast looking for advice.

Sarah runs a practice with 18 employees, and business is good enough that she's expecting to hit around $1 million in revenue this year. The catch? Her team has outgrown their space, and every new location she's eyeing would require somewhere between $250,000 and $300,000 in buildout costs. She doesn't have that cash sitting around, which is why she reached out to Ramsey to ask how she could keep growing without taking on debt.

When Revenue Doesn't Equal Success

Ramsey didn't waste time with pleasantries. "I wouldn't do it. That's my recommendation," he said right off the bat. "I'm not going to go $250,000 in debt for leasehold improvements in somebody else's building. That's dumb. No, I'm not doing that."

Then he asked the question that really mattered: was she actually making any profit on that million-dollar revenue? Sarah's answer was uncomfortable. Margins were extremely thin, she explained, because clinical staff costs are high. That's when Ramsey hit her with the line that probably echoed in her head for days: "Are you not making a profit on a million dollars?"

His follow-up was even sharper: "Why would you want to expand it if you're not making money? I don't want more of this."

Sarah tried to explain that her motivation was helping more children, which is admirable. But Ramsey wasn't having it. Good intentions, he said, don't excuse bad business math. "You don't grow a business model that's broken."

The Real Path Forward

According to Ramsey, Sarah's problem isn't that she needs a bigger space. It's that she needs a better business. She should either raise her rates, cut costs, or ideally both. Until she gets the numbers right, expansion is just going to make things worse. "Then you'll have the money to expand," he told her. "You'll have this magic thing called profit."

Instead of jumping into an expensive new lease and a massive buildout project, Ramsey suggested something simpler: negotiate with her current landlord to extend the lease for another year. Use that time to actually fix the business model and get the practice running with healthier margins. Once the fundamentals are solid, growth becomes a lot less stressful.

He also offered a practical tip from his own experience. When he was starting out and needed office space, he looked for landlords willing to cover buildout costs themselves. "I told the guy, 'I'm not going to fix up your building unless you reduce my rent by that much,'" Ramsey recalled. It's a reminder that there's usually more flexibility in commercial real estate deals than people realize.

The key, Ramsey emphasized, is being willing to walk away if a deal doesn't make financial sense. "Don't fall into the trap of, 'There's only one way to do this.'"

His bottom-line advice was straightforward: get the business profitable first, then explore growth options without piling on stress or debt. "You're going to get yourself in a world of hurt," he warned Sarah. "You're too smart to do that."

It's tough-love advice, but it makes sense. A million dollars in revenue sounds impressive until you realize there's nothing left at the end of the year. Growth for the sake of growth just means you're losing money faster.

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Dave Ramsey Shuts Down Business Owner's Expansion Plans: 'Why Would You Want More Of This?'

MarketDash Editorial Team
12 hours ago
Personal finance guru Dave Ramsey delivered blunt advice to a Dallas pediatric therapy practice owner making $1 million in revenue but no profit. His message: fix your business model before you even think about expansion.

Here's a problem you probably don't want to have: your business is bringing in a million dollars a year, and you still can't afford to grow. That's exactly where Sarah, a Dallas-based pediatric therapy practice owner, found herself when she called into Dave Ramsey's "EntreLeadership" podcast looking for advice.

Sarah runs a practice with 18 employees, and business is good enough that she's expecting to hit around $1 million in revenue this year. The catch? Her team has outgrown their space, and every new location she's eyeing would require somewhere between $250,000 and $300,000 in buildout costs. She doesn't have that cash sitting around, which is why she reached out to Ramsey to ask how she could keep growing without taking on debt.

When Revenue Doesn't Equal Success

Ramsey didn't waste time with pleasantries. "I wouldn't do it. That's my recommendation," he said right off the bat. "I'm not going to go $250,000 in debt for leasehold improvements in somebody else's building. That's dumb. No, I'm not doing that."

Then he asked the question that really mattered: was she actually making any profit on that million-dollar revenue? Sarah's answer was uncomfortable. Margins were extremely thin, she explained, because clinical staff costs are high. That's when Ramsey hit her with the line that probably echoed in her head for days: "Are you not making a profit on a million dollars?"

His follow-up was even sharper: "Why would you want to expand it if you're not making money? I don't want more of this."

Sarah tried to explain that her motivation was helping more children, which is admirable. But Ramsey wasn't having it. Good intentions, he said, don't excuse bad business math. "You don't grow a business model that's broken."

The Real Path Forward

According to Ramsey, Sarah's problem isn't that she needs a bigger space. It's that she needs a better business. She should either raise her rates, cut costs, or ideally both. Until she gets the numbers right, expansion is just going to make things worse. "Then you'll have the money to expand," he told her. "You'll have this magic thing called profit."

Instead of jumping into an expensive new lease and a massive buildout project, Ramsey suggested something simpler: negotiate with her current landlord to extend the lease for another year. Use that time to actually fix the business model and get the practice running with healthier margins. Once the fundamentals are solid, growth becomes a lot less stressful.

He also offered a practical tip from his own experience. When he was starting out and needed office space, he looked for landlords willing to cover buildout costs themselves. "I told the guy, 'I'm not going to fix up your building unless you reduce my rent by that much,'" Ramsey recalled. It's a reminder that there's usually more flexibility in commercial real estate deals than people realize.

The key, Ramsey emphasized, is being willing to walk away if a deal doesn't make financial sense. "Don't fall into the trap of, 'There's only one way to do this.'"

His bottom-line advice was straightforward: get the business profitable first, then explore growth options without piling on stress or debt. "You're going to get yourself in a world of hurt," he warned Sarah. "You're too smart to do that."

It's tough-love advice, but it makes sense. A million dollars in revenue sounds impressive until you realize there's nothing left at the end of the year. Growth for the sake of growth just means you're losing money faster.